In a situation like this, perhaps it is worth exploring that ultra high red dot mount from Unity Tactical. Now, since for you 1x performance is a big deal, Spectre DR might be the ticket, but the battery life is not Aimpoint long. It also happens to be lighter than Spectre DR or LPVOs (with mounts). I have been using the fixed power Elcan Spectre4x with a red dot piggybacked on top of it for several years and for many applications, I kind alike the simplicity of it. If you do not need the additional magnification of the Razor Gen3, Elcan Spetre DR has a lot to recommend itself. With Prismatics being a little shorter and usually having a little less eye relief, the weight you are adding ends up being further back and that seems to have a less pronounces effect on handling speed. One of the things that does not get enough coverage when the conversation comes down to prismatic vs LPVO is where the balance is front to back. 8x is no comparison especially if you think you might need 8x for PID. if you are not then the NX8 might be worth it for weight/balance reasons but just know that it is an optical sacrifice for handling gains. If you plan on adding a suppressor to the rifle get the G3 and do not look back! it will all balance nicely. additionally in less than 10 minuets of dry firing i don't even have to worry about the eye box anymore it is very easy to train yourself to work with and get behind. because of that i wound up getting the Razor G3 and am SUPER glad i did because at 1x this thing truly is a bulky red dot with the way the FFP reticle works and i think you would be much happier with it than the SFP reticle on the G2 that seems to clutter things up a bit more. I asked Koshkin which would be better on 1x between the Razor G3 and the NX8 and he said that the Razor is just simply better. Your debate should be between the NX8 and the Razor G3 because at 1x both of these optics become almost like a true red dot.

That being said, the Elcan is no doubt an awesome optical instrument, if the weight and cost donвЂ™t hinder you. If the offset idea is worth pursuing for you, something like an SWFA ultralight 2.5-10x32 (9.5 oz) would pair well with the mini dot (3 oz) and total weight should be under 14 oz before mounts. Only downside IвЂ™ve found with the offset is being cognizant to not bang it around as much or catch it on something, itвЂ™s not quite as slick. The 1x would be there for most things and if snap shots or off balance/weird positioning, the offset dot is there a bit faster if needed. Of course, target ID or other factors might warrant more mag. IвЂ™ve even ran a fixed 10x with in conjunction with an offset dot and liked it decently well.ДЇor sbr use under 250m at man-sized targets, 4x should be sufficient with good eyesight. It doesnвЂ™t take too much practice to get that canted presentation and have the dot come right into view. Uncommon shooting positions, target transitions, and FOV/Ease of use are going to be important.ДЄnyone have any input or wisdom to drop on me for an SBR optic?ДЇor shorty rifles I pretty much have gone the way of being as light weight as possible itвЂ™s so easy to let an sbr get too chubby and loose itвЂ™s quick handling qualities.ДЄ light weight 1-4x (or 1-6x) or the like with a 45 degree offset mini dot is a pretty versatile combo. The gun will live 250m -ish and in for 90% of its life, so 1x performance is awfully important, but for my context when I need magnification, I REALLY need magnification (thus no red dot). As best as I can see it, my choices boil down to the Elcan 1-4, Razor Gen II E 1-6, or the NX8. That being said, as a potential duty gun, I really want to have some form of magnification for the times that it is absolutely needed.ДЄnyone have any experience running an Elcan on a 10.3in SBR, or a Razor 1-6? This is my first dive into the SBR world, so Ive got no hands-on experience for how a heavier optic will balance on a shorter rifle (used to 14.5in guns).

Ive used EOTechs and Aimpoints before, but am just not a huge fan of running a magnifier with the dots. My main couple of concerns for this optic/setup are weight balance on 10.3in gun and 1x performance. That being said, I sort of stumbled across the Elcan SpecterDR 1-4, and figured it could be a decent contender. I originally asked about swapping my Razor 1-6 (Non-E version) for an NX8 as I was trying to cut weight, but it seems as if the NX8 may not be the best choice. I know we had a thread not too long ago about the best SHTF/Duty optic.

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